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Existing UC 4.3 user upgrading to version 8.0

Discussion created by bmaranga on Jun 22, 2010
Latest reply on Jul 7, 2010 by Srinivasan Kilambi

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Hi,

We have a current user of CUCM 4.3 who is planning to upgrade their system into version 8. I read all ordering guide for version 8, but it seems that there is no direct path in this kind of migration or upgrade. Since our approach is to provide them with new server but reuse existing phones, my question is how they can benefit in their current phone licenses if applicable. Unlike in 7.1 where you can apply for the equivalent DLUs based on the P.O. or documents of the phones to used it in the new system. Please advise if there is a better way. I’m planning to upgrade them first to 7.1 then enrol them in the 3 on 3 promo maybe a year after to take them into version 8.

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Bimbo MAranga

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Srinivasan Kilambi Jun 22, 2010 12:52 PM
Depending on the needs of the customer and the applications they desire there are many ways to approach this. If they desire more apps beyond dial tone and VM, then going to CUWL makes sense especially since you have the program that gives 50% off list price for going to STD/PRO. So 2800 assuming have CCM + Unity can move to CUWL at a discounted price and the remaining VM users will migrate using UWL-UPG-UTY-STD(or PRO) for Unity only at a higher price since eventually you need phones and apps for them too. You can then use UCL for the difference of users who only need phones.

But if only 2800 users are interested in apps then only convert them to CUWL using the discounted price and keep everyone else UCL. Use the 3X3 program to get UCL for CUCM and Unity at a low price. keep in mind Unity is not covered, only Uconn.

http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/sell/technology/ipc/3and3.html

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Srini
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bmaranga @ Srinivasan Kilambi on Jun 24, 2010 3:40 AM
Hi,
Thanks for the reply. Client is only using a voice application and nothing more. Just to clarify, the 3x3 program is not applicable on this since the 4.3 version is not DLU based. Licenses are in the phone upon purchased. My understanding is 3x3 is only applicable to the DLU convert to UCL. Please advice.

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Bimbo Maranga
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Srinivasan Kilambi @ bmaranga on Jun 24, 2010 1:44 PM
No that is incorrect. 4.3 is also DLU based. In fact even 8.0 is DLU based, nothing has changed in the backend. It is just that from a quoting perspective UCL allows user based licensing for 7.1.5/8.0 but in the backend it is still DLU

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Srini
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jedellerby @ Srinivasan Kilambi on Jul 7, 2010 8:00 AM
That's interesting, so how do you tell how many users you have on a system if it's DLU based? Does the license file tell you users too, or do you just rely on the various phone count types to calculate the various figures?

Also, what does an extension mobility user get counted as under the UCL pricing scheme?

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Jed
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Srinivasan Kilambi @ jedellerby on Jul 7, 2010 5:33 PM
Since User to Phone is often a reasonable assumption to make, I would use that as a reference. You can also run a user report, at the end of the day since the backend is DLU which is phone centric that should serve as a good foundation. For ExMo see this thread

https://communities.cisco.com/message/35112#35112

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Srini
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